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Frying Doom Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance 0	Posted - 2012.03.08 01:53:00 - [1] - Quote I think it is very suspect for someone to open a post on who to vote for in the industrial side and leave out good candidates or for that matter any industrial candidate. All a post like this will do is cause more fracturing in the voting of the industrialists. This will then give the 0.0 power blocks a better chance of once again gaining control of the CSM. TBH this would be an excellent tactic for the 0.0 guys, get an alt to create a post like this and then wait for the inevitable response from the candidates who where left out, then slag them off and make them look like a bunch of crazies. It would be a more subtle attack than the usual Goon hate mail. So either Issler was right and you are a Alt of someones, or you created a post with your preferred candidates in it but are inadvertently helping the Goons to win. So please if you are really not someones alt, add in a section on all the industrial candidates and express what you believe is their good points. Anything else and you just doom us to another year of Goon CSM. Frying Doom
Frying Doom Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance 0	Posted - 2012.03.08 02:04:00 - [2] - Quote Karl Hobb wrote: Frying Doom wrote: So please if you are really not someones alt, add in a section on all the industrial candidates and express what you believe is their good points. Anything else and you just doom us to another year of Goon CSM. I'll bite. Hans is a good industrial candidate because he wants to blow **** up. I voted for Hans. I would have voted for Mittens for the same reason, but he'll get a seat anyway and we need more than one person to have a "council". Sorry a good industrial candidate blows things up? You do play EVE right? What do industrialists blow up?
Frying Doom Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance 12	Posted - 2012.03.13 13:55:00 - [3] - Quote Taiwanistan wrote: explain your wis taint I believe Issler has explained this many, many times. Wis really needs a slogan. Walking in Stations. If Done Right, Would Really Add a Whole New Dimension To EVE. Vote Issler Dainze for CSM7! http://community.eveonline.com/council/voting/Vote.asp?c=470
Frying Doom Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance 16	Posted - 2012.03.15 10:34:00 - [4] - Quote Why look to politicians and people who care about the next 12 months. Politicians only worrying about plans that will occur in their political terms, are destroying the planet. With no-one ever worried about what happens after they leave office the planets people are slowly being doomed to shallow thinking. Wis and so many other parts of this game need to be looked at as, where the game should head and what we would like it to be in the future not just in terms of the next patch or next 12 months. Also the CSM's thinking should not be, what does a CSM member want for them selves and what they can they convince other people they made the game better, by pushing narrow focus of issues. Without worrying about the game as whole. Vote Issler Dainze for CSM7! http://community.eveonline.com/council/voting/Vote.asp?c=470 Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
Frying Doom Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance 16	Posted - 2012.03.15 10:46:00 - [5] - Quote Hear Hear. Vote Issler Dainze for CSM7! http://community.eveonline.com/council/voting/Vote.asp?c=470 Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
Frying Doom Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance 16	Posted - 2012.03.15 11:00:00 - [6] - Quote In all honest I doubt that CCP has stopped working on Wis, after the millions they have spent on it. It doesn't make sense for them to stop, this way in a few years they could suddenly release a lot of work and they might get applauded depending on how it is released. If the CSM in the mean time ever found out they would be prevented from talking about it with the Trade secrets and Non-Disclosure agreement they have to sign. Vote Issler Dainze for CSM7! http://community.eveonline.com/council/voting/Vote.asp?c=470 Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
Frying Doom Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance 16	Posted - 2012.03.15 23:52:00 - [7] - Quote Weaselior wrote: issler: let us suppose a database error has accidentally placed you on the csm. I love how a member of Goonswarm can not ask a question without an insult. Vote Issler Dainze for CSM7! http://community.eveonline.com/council/voting/Vote.asp?c=470 Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
Frying Doom Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance 16	Posted - 2012.03.16 00:13:00 - [8] - Quote Sidus Sarmiang wrote: You make it hard to do otherwise. Thanks nice to know that my posts showing the facts that members of Goonswarm don't have the ability to vote for a candidate of their own choosing and that they value the freedom of political expression so lowly as to give away their rights to choose who they want in the CSM to be in Goonswarm, are rattling you and your membership. Vote Issler Dainze for CSM7! http://community.eveonline.com/council/voting/Vote.asp?c=470 Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
Frying Doom Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance 16	Posted - 2012.03.16 00:49:00 - [9] - Quote Two step wrote: Uh, I'm sorry, but that isn't allowed. If CCP comes to you with, say, a plan for ultra-titans with 8 doomsday slots, you can't make a thread on the forums about them. While I agree that it isn't the role of the CSM to do game design, it is the role of the CSM to both point out specifics of what is currently not working as well as to critique the proposals CCP brings to the table (and to do so on your own without the support of some sort of "council") Hold on is what your saying that is that if CCP came to you about making ultra-titans, you cant talk about capital ships? As in a general area or that you cant talk specifically about the ultra-titans? Vote Issler Dainze for CSM7! http://community.eveonline.com/council/voting/Vote.asp?c=470 Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
Frying Doom Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance 16	Posted - 2012.03.16 02:55:00 - [10] - Quote It is always nice to watch politicians who believe they might be loosing ground to another, start slagging another off. This is most of the news coverage around the world for elections. Sad but true. Vote Issler Dainze for CSM7! http://community.eveonline.com/council/voting/Vote.asp?c=470 Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.

Frying Doom Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance 16	Posted - 2012.03.16 03:35:00 - [11] - Quote Hans Jagerblitzen wrote: I asked these question not to attack but to honestly learn more about you, Bugger, Target lock cancelled Vote Issler Dainze for CSM7! http://community.eveonline.com/council/voting/Vote.asp?c=470 Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
Frying Doom Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance 16	Posted - 2012.03.16 06:10:00 - [12] - Quote If advisers didn't have advisers we would be royally screwed. Hell even in a primitive backwater like the United states of America, their advisers have advisers. Like the national security adviser has the Joint Chiefs of Staff. Vote Issler Dainze for CSM7! http://community.eveonline.com/council/voting/Vote.asp?c=470 Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
Frying Doom Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance 16	Posted - 2012.03.16 09:08:00 - [13] - Quote Yes there are times when the NDA would get in the way, but I would prefer a candidate who is ready to listen to the people at the time of the discussion like the before and after of Incarna than have someone who believes that because they got elected they ARE the will of the people. Like all the RL politicians that vote in a manner completely opposed to their constituents. Like a Jury I would rather have one with an open mind, than a closed one. Vote Issler Dainze for CSM7! http://community.eveonline.com/council/voting/Vote.asp?c=470 Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
Frying Doom Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance 16	Posted - 2012.03.16 09:33:00 - [14] - Quote I have only one thing to say about Hans. I hope he gets in. He deserves it. Unlike certain goons Vote Issler Dainze for CSM7! http://community.eveonline.com/council/voting/Vote.asp?c=470 Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
Frying Doom Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance 16	Posted - 2012.03.16 09:48:00 - [15] - Quote Vordak Kallager wrote: Frying Doom wrote: I have only one thing to say about Hans. I hope he gets in. He deserves it. Unlike certain goons I think The Mittani should get a seat just as much as Hans. The CSM6 was successful (although I don't believe he was the sole reason for this, not by a long-shot) and he does have good ideas. You just have to separate The Mittani, Chairman of CSM6 & Null-Sec Player Representative from The Mittani, Space King of Goonswarm, Internet Troll & Griefer Extraordinaire. They are two distinct people, in my opinion, as much as he and his Goonions try and make them one. In all honesty my dislike for The Mittani on the CSM has little to do with him specifically. It is more to do with the shocking treatment democracy has gotten due to the rules that have been set up for voting. Oh that and the EGO. Personally for CSM 8 I would like the eligibility to vote to be based on time active preferably 90 days minimum before the next election, rather than age of the character. As it stands you just have to plex up old inactive accounts just before voting day. Vote Issler Dainze for CSM7! http://community.eveonline.com/council/voting/Vote.asp?c=470 Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
Frying Doom Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance 17	Posted - 2012.03.16 22:49:00 - [16] - Quote Weaselior wrote: Frying Doom wrote: Personally for CSM 8 I would like the eligibility to vote to be based on time active preferably 90 days minimum before the next election, rather than age of the character. As it stands you just have to plex up old inactive accounts just before voting day. i still enjoy your hilarious conspiracy theories about how we are spending oodles of money to win It would be nice to know that alot of the characters voting were not just re-activated just to vote. Especially after last years dead people voting, on the 5 day account activation. Vote Issler Dainze for CSM7! http://community.eveonline.com/council/voting/Vote.asp?c=470 Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
Frying Doom Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance 18	Posted - 2012.03.17 03:00:00 - [17] - Quote Vordak Kallager wrote: Ka P'lah wrote: To roleplay Admiral Ackbar for a sec: "It's a trap!" Please avoid the trap of freindly-fire incidents. Issler and Hans, you guys are pretty much natural allies in that you both seek to benefit the eve community as a whole...a simple statement, perhaps, but a lot of complex ideas encapsuleerated / represented by it. I'd like to see both Issler and Hans on the CSM. Unfortunately, they are both competing for some of the same votes. When the elections are done with, and both Hans and Issler manage to make it to CSM (hopefully!), I have no doubt they'll play well together. But right now, every vote counts. So long as More people vote, I think all of EvE wins. Vote Issler Dainze for CSM7! http://community.eveonline.com/council/voting/Vote.asp?c=470 Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.

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